brand new flight attendants in their 20s, no veterans, no packages to pay for, brand new airline, no union, no pensions to pay for and for a few years it's the greatest deal in the world because they have no responsibilities. >> what's happening, interesting, you it hasn't all settled yet. in orange county, california, there are so many uber and lyft drivers they're not getting rides. they're polluting the air, congesting traffic for less and less money. so, it hasn't settled out yet. >> well -- >> and lyft and uber are fighting it out. >> what's lyft? >> a competitor. >> the moustaches on the front of the car, which i don't get. >> freelance people? >> right. they're taking larger commissions, cutting the amounts drivers get. they're cutting corners, that's why we have to have uniform regulation. you may want to change the regulation, break some taxi cab cartel, et cetera, but you have to have uniform regulation.